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  Apologists saying that the JWs shouldn't be banned, what the hell!??

  by Crazyguy in

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  2. beliefs

  it's been brought to my attention that there are xjw that say they support the witnesses and don't think russia should ban them.

  i would just like to remind all of you that jws are guilty of murder, causing higher rates of suicide, covering up child molestation, and keeping members in prisoned because if they leave they loose family, financial support, possible employment etc.. sure their not strapping bombs to their chests but they easily get members to kill themselves with their blood policies.

  they are an extremist group!

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  Bungi Bill

  If anything was going to finish off the JWs, it would be apathy.

  That fact has been noted by many others who contribute on this discussion board, and is certainly recognised by the JW leadership. (Over 30 years ago, I can recall the Circuit Overseer doing a rant about how apathetic we were all becoming. I have little reason to believe that much has improved since then!)

  In the JW world, one thing gauranteed to counteract apathy is an outbreak of persecution. So much so, that it was often noted that in the places where the JWs became legalised, there then began a slow but steady trend towards apathy.

  Trying to ban the JWs may inflict some harm on them, but would likely be more than offset by the shot of adrenaline that it would subsequently release!
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  Apologists saying that the JWs shouldn't be banned, what the hell!??

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's been brought to my attention that there are xjw that say they support the witnesses and don't think russia should ban them.

  i would just like to remind all of you that jws are guilty of murder, causing higher rates of suicide, covering up child molestation, and keeping members in prisoned because if they leave they loose family, financial support, possible employment etc.. sure their not strapping bombs to their chests but they easily get members to kill themselves with their blood policies.

  they are an extremist group!

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  Bungi Bill

  this is NOT your grandpa's generation

  That may not mean too much. Certain persons claimed that the JWs were going to all fall in a heap after 1975, for that very same reason:

  - "Grandpa's generation" after all, was looking forward to a "Heavenly Hope", whereas the pre-1975 lot very much believed they were about to step directly through into a "Paradise Earth".

  Well, such predictions were bloody wrong!

  Likewise, I believe a ban on the JWs would work no better now than at any other time:

  - That lot are a bit like that old song Close the Door, they're Coming though the Window i.e. "The more you slapped them down, the more they multiplied".
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  You can defeat lies with truth. But you can only suppress truth with censorship.

  by Island Man in

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  watchtower bans jws from visiting apostate sites and reading apostate literature.

  banning is the tool of the weak and the cowardly, those lacking the courage and/or strength to defeat the enemy face to face.

  we ban - quarantine - infected ebola patients from the rest of the population because it's a strong disease and we lack a cure for it.

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  Bungi Bill

  Censorship is very much a two-edged sword.

  All too often, it only piques peoples' curiosity about the matter being censored. As the OP has correctly observed, the best way to deal with an untruth is to completely bury it in facts.

  Of course, if both parties in the dispute are equally guilty of being "economical in the use of the truth", then both will resort to such measures as censorship.
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  Apologists saying that the JWs shouldn't be banned, what the hell!??

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's been brought to my attention that there are xjw that say they support the witnesses and don't think russia should ban them.

  i would just like to remind all of you that jws are guilty of murder, causing higher rates of suicide, covering up child molestation, and keeping members in prisoned because if they leave they loose family, financial support, possible employment etc.. sure their not strapping bombs to their chests but they easily get members to kill themselves with their blood policies.

  they are an extremist group!

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  Bungi Bill

  Londo 111,

  I think you nailed it! When used against extremist elements, bans tend only feed fanaticism.

  Against a money-hungry mob such as the WTS, hitting them hard where it hurts the most, like the hip-pocket, is much more effective!
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  Just a quick Poll...Do you think the GB is sincere?

  by NikL in

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  2. friends

  i've been thinking about this the past few days and curious what the honest consensus is here just for fun.. show of hands,.

  is the governing body.... a: completely sincere.

  they really do believe what they teach.. b: somewhat sincere.

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  Bungi Bill

  My guess is that Governing Body membership would be divided between Category C, and a modification of Category A.

  This would mean a mixture of both:

  1)Those who are completely insincere, and are just playing the system for what they can get out of it.

  2) And others who have heard so many lies told for so long that they end up believing it themselves.
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  whatever happened to rotation? wt study to April two.

  by waton in

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  with all the emphasis on hierarchical succession in that wt, , what ever happened to mentioning of the refreshing, liberating "rotating of positions" period, the time of great increase?

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  Bungi Bill

  The rotation of positions in the congregation was implemented at the same time as the elder arrangement came in - i.e. at the start of the 1973 Service Year.

  It did not last for very long, though. From memory, the first position to be made non-rotational was that of congregation secretary. That happened fairly quickly, well before the 1970s were out - something to do with the congregation requiring a "fixed address" for all its correspondence.
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  Atheism would not appeared if …

  by venus in

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  2. beliefs

  · if religions were immune to division.

  · if scriptures were immune to scientific errors.

  · if religious leaders were immune to hypocrisy.

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  Bungi Bill

  ....... and if some of us (myself included) are not just totally "Religioned Out"!

  - which is maybe just a more polite version of having had a good, old fashioned "Gutsfull".
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  Elder doesn't know difference between new moon and full moon

  by hoser in

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  today at the service group the elder leading couldn't figure out which was which.

  he was trying to convince us that the memorial was at the new moon.

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  Bungi Bill

  Well the WTS always liked to say that it required "no special abilities" in order to qualify as an elder!
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  Anthony Morris - The Higher Education Broadcast

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. beliefs

  last night i had jw broadcasting on in the background while i was working, i like to keep up to date with their crap.

  which is strange because when i actually was a jw i hated reading or watching their material.. anyway, on the streaming section, anthony morris comes on screen telling me that higher education is bad and "the better the university, the greater the danger".

  i never would have believed it if i hadn't seen him say it myself.

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  Bungi Bill

  "We wont need doctors or lawyers after armageddon, but we WILL need carpenters and plumbers!!".

  Further proof the bloody fool doesn't know what he is talking about!

  Construction activities also require the services of para-professionals such as quantity surveyors, drafting technicians and survey technicians, as well as professionals such as architects, structural engineers, civil engineers and town planners (these are cited as examples only - the list is by no means an exhaustive one).

  All these professions together contribute a much different set of skills than that which can possibly be provided by even somebody holding an advanced trade qualification.

  For a few brief years during the "quickbuild" kingdom hall era of the late 1980s and early nineties, it seemed like the WTS had finally woken up to that one. If so, then the likes of this bright spark has just as quickly forgotten!
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  Anthony Morris - The Higher Education Broadcast

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last night i had jw broadcasting on in the background while i was working, i like to keep up to date with their crap.

  which is strange because when i actually was a jw i hated reading or watching their material.. anyway, on the streaming section, anthony morris comes on screen telling me that higher education is bad and "the better the university, the greater the danger".

  i never would have believed it if i hadn't seen him say it myself.

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  Bungi Bill

  They know how important professionals are to their org. They use them all the time.

  Too right they do - and always have done!

  As people would express it down in this part of the world "They ought to be shot with a ball of their own $h#t!"